Monday, April 15, 2013



  2. Michael W Hoggard
    March 16 via mobile
    Two Hebrew roots cult members just got sent to their room without supper.
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    • Eric R. Wem Thank you. I came in licking my chops when the warning sirens went off. Good looking out. 
    • Rebecca Provenzano Karl Can't take em' anywhere ! Lol
      March 17 at 1:24am via mobile · Like · 4
    • Lynette Largent NO BACON FOR YOU GUYS! Oh yes, they can't enjoy it because of the law! 
    • Eric R. Wem Things got pretty frisky. Glad it's over.
    • Nancy Mojena Reindl Lynette Largent, I have proof that I already had my bacon Ahhhhhh, so delish!
    • Lynette Largent I think I'll picke up a ham when I go to the store. lol
    • Lynette Largent I wish I could spread bacon aroma through the Internet. ROFL!
    • Susan Zreak Kuehl Bahahahaha while chewing my tenderloin steak at NRA banquet!
      March 17 at 1:27am via mobile · Like · 7
    • Nancy Mojena Reindl I'm sending some of our aroma!
    • Gail Mandich Wautlet I hope you tell the whole story P.M. I couldn't listen today. 
    • Tama Ferrell 38And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40((For he that is not against us is on our part))). 41For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward
    • Michael Boling Pretty rude comments. While their perspective on the purpose of the law may be entirely off, are we to then engage in making fun of others in this manner? Just something to think about. We can share the truth in love and let the power of the Holy Spirit and the sword of the Spirit do its mighty work rather than engaging in sarcasm.
    • Carole Webberley Is there an audio that I don't know about?
    • Dan Bulaong Rodriguez Rightfully said Michael... Sorry Lord.
      March 17 at 1:51am via mobile · Like · 6
    • Becky Potter Wow Pastor that doesn't seem right. What did they do wrong? You falsely accused the Hebrew Roots Believers in Yeshua and by doing so they (we) have a right to face our accusers. They posted scripture verses in context, and want to know what scripture you use to accuse them (as you are to do Biblically) but you refuse to do so and you block them? SMH if you honestly believed a word of which you spoke against the Hebrew Roots Believers, you would be wanting to talk with them and show them the truth as you would have just put their blood on your hands. It is pretty obvious by the fruit of your spirit (and your followers) who you really follow. Eric and Daniel showed you scripture and the errors in your teachings out of love and concern for you. You ban them for posting scripture and asking for scripture in return that backs up your claims against us and your false teachings. Great witness to others Pastor (and followers) to your love for others. I pray YHWH open your eyes to the truth of His Word.
    • Becky Potter Eric R. Wem Thank you. I came in licking my chops when the warning sirens went off. Good looking out.

      Licking your chops hey?....just like a wolf in sheeps clothing.
    • Tonya Maxwell salvation is still open to the gentiles ........
    • Tracy Payne Buford Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. 
      Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. 
      Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
    • Divine Love We have been freed from the law of sin and death, not the law of God. No one is saved by the law, but it is the evidence of your salvation. Saved by grace to obey in Love. Obedience is the evidence of salvation. If you love me, keep my commandments. The whole bible does not make sense without the law. We don't need Messiah without law. I pray for you all and your ability to understand context. May YHWH open your eyes to His whole bible truth, before His soon return.
    • Becky Potter Are they Jewish fables, or are they Commandments of YHWH given to the children of Israel? Jewish fables are not the Commandments of YHWH. Go back and read who was present at the base of Mt. Sinai and see who was there. Was it just the Jews or was it Israel? Once you accept Yeshua (Jesus as you know Him) you are grafted into the vine of Abraham, making you part of Israel. Israel is made up of 12 Tribes, only one of them being the "Jews" or more correctly Judah. Who did Yeshua come for? Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
      What are the names of the 12 gates? I assure you there is not a Christian gate. Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
    • Divine Love We are all grafted in to the One Vine. There are not two seperate bibles, one for Christians and one for Jews. We are all the children of God (Israelites), if we have the faith of Jesus and keep the commandments.https://www.facebook.com/notes/divine-love/there-is-only-one-blood-covenant-either-we-are-apart-of-it-or-we-are-not/453830641319789
    • Divine Love Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:12
    • Divine Love And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17
    • Leslie Olenych I AM CRACKING UP LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY P. MIKE 
    • Tracy Payne Buford Do you know what commandments are being talked about?????
    • Becky Potter Instead of laughing about it why dont you open your Bible and read what it says for yourself instead of blindly following the teachings of man?
      Yes YHWH's commandments all of them.
    • Becky Potter As Eric Turner already asked, I will ask again:
      What does it mean when the Messiah says this?

      Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
      Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
      Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
      Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
      Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

      Many say that all we have to do is love God and Love our neighbor, no need to eat Kosher, no need to keep the Sabbaths, no need to observe YHVH’s Appointed Feast days, no need to do anything other than love God and love our neighbor. Well, we do need to do both these things, but how do we do that? The Ten Commandments can be summed up in these Two. The First 4 tell us how to love God, the last 6 tell us how to love our neighbor. We have initial commandments, the Two Greatest, and the Ten “hang from them” or can be summarized by them. The Torah/Law hang from the Ten. How does this work?

      Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. (INITIAL COMMAND)
      Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
      Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
      Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.(INSTRUCTIONS/TORAH on HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY)

      Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
      Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (INITIAL COMMAND)
      Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
      Deu 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
      Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
      Deu 6:9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.(TORAH/INSTRUCTIONS on HOW TO LOVE YHVH)

      So, without Torah/Instructions, you can not fulfill the Ten Commandments. Without Fulfilling the Ten, you have by default missed the Greatest Two as well. It works the same in our Governmental laws. WE have the Constitution, the BASE or FOUNDATION, then, we have all these other laws telling us how to keep these Constitutional laws. If we change the Instructions, we can not fulfill the Constitutional laws. Is it a strange thing that the more we change YHVH’s instructions, adding to and removing them, he sends us Presidents who change the definitions of Constitutional law? What we do Spiritually, always effects the Physical. If you want your beloved Constitution back, all you gotta do is repent and return to the Torah/Instructions of YHVH, else you will be sold into slavery as a useless servant. Shalom to all who refuse not correction.
    • Tracy Payne Buford Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 
      Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 
      Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 
      Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 
      Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
    • Becky Potter That doesn't say the only two, it says which is the greatest. Let me ask you something, seriously. Is Jesus God in the flesh?
    • Tracy Payne Buford You need to come OUT of the old testament! The cross is ALL that matters! You must stop going back to the law! You CAN NOT!!!!! CAN NOT! do it through the law! Only Christ and his work on the cross!
    • Tracy Payne Buford Absolutely, of course!
    • Becky Potter Ok so we agree on that. Now does God ever change?
    • Tracy Payne Buford God NEVER changes but the law was fulfiled! DONE!!! There are two religions ..... DO and DONE!. Following the law means you have to continue to DO and the work through the cross is DONE!
    • Becky Potter Ok now with what you have just said the law was fulfilled, I have a question. Do you mind answering it please? 
      Do you still tell people that they are sinners and in need of a Savior?
    • Moni Hz @ Becky Potter, Jesus was talking to the Jews not the gentiles, you know this right? But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. After He rose from the dead this law that applied to them, does not apply to us in the sense that we are not UNDER the LAW, we are UNDER GRACE, does that help in understanding? I ma not sure if you are really wanting to understand or if it is pride in defending this? Only you know and God knws this, but if you will read from Acts on ward, you will see, the Holy Spirit WILL show you. I promise  If you are true and you really want to know, and if you can put pride away, and realize our flesh knows nothing, we know nothing, only the Lord knows and reveals. We are to be like children, so we don't get in the way of the Spirit.
    • Chris Rant Titus 1:14
    • Becky Potter I am not asking anything in pride. Im asking a question and would like you to answer them. Do you tell people that they are sinners and are in need of a Savior?
    • Joe Austin Chambless Titus 3:5-9

      5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

      6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

      7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

      8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

      9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
    • Becky Potter And I agree we are not under the law. We have salvation which only comes from grace through faith in Jesus.
    • Tracy Payne Buford I'm not sure if you're trying to trip me up with words or what your motives are Becky but I WILL NOT be swayed! I WILL NOT go back to the law! Christ FINISHED IT!!!! When you go back to the law, you spit in the face of Christ. You shun the work of the cross.
    • Becky Potter The law was never meant for salvation. Never could anyone save themselves by following the law.
    • Tracy Payne Buford Divine! No one is going to watch the stuff you're posting. Stop wasting time. Becky is approaching this in a nicer way!
    • Becky Potter Im not trying to trip anyone up, Im asking real questions here. As I am confused as to what you are saying about the law. Do you tell people that they are sinners in need of a Savior?
    • Tracy Payne Buford Of course....what's the trick here? You know the answer to that question Becky.
    • Chris Rant I agree Becky it is by faith read Hebrews chapter 11,it was by faith and not works or keeping the law or sacrifices but by faith,And faith in what i hear you say well faith in the one to come,the Messiah,Christ who is Jesus.
    • Becky Potter No I really don't know the answer to that question, as I do not know you. So I do not want to imply you are doing anything.
    • Divine Love Watch Pictures? anyway, I posted a lot of information real fast with pictures to make it easy for you to understand context. Who made you speaker for everyone? How rude you are!
    • Moni Hz DO YOU HEBREW ROOTS BELIEVERS NOT SEE THAT CHRIST HAD NOT DIED YET WHEN THE LAW WAS WRITTEN??? HE HAS SINCE DIED AND CHANGED THE WHOLE SITUATION FROM WHAT IS WAS BACK THEN?? DO YOU NOT SEE THIS?? CLEARLY SOMETHIGN HAS CHANGED BETWEEN THEN AND AFTER HE AROSE. THE LAW IS NOW IN A BELIEVERS HEART, BECAUSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, OUR HEART IS CIRCUMCISED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD! THEIRS WAS NOT. OUR CONSCIENCE BARES WITNESS AGAINST US. THAT IS WHY WE CAN HAVE PEACE IN OUR HEARTS, THE LAW IS IN US, AND WE KNOW IN OUR HEARTS WHEN WE DO WRONG AND WHEN WE NEED TO TURN, BECAUSE THE TREASURE IN THIS EARTHEN VESSEL TELLS US SO.
    • Joe Austin Chambless Romans 8

      King James Version (KJV)

      8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

      3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
    • Tracy Payne Buford Divine...............BACK OFF!!!!!!
    • Becky Potter Chris, yes I assure you I know Jesus has came and died for our sins. The only way for salvation is through the blood of Jesus. We agree on this.
    • Tracy Payne Buford yes, Becky. We all do.
    • Divine Love I do not like being labeled. I am a whole bible believer who understands context and the bible as a whole.
    • Becky Potter Moni please I'd like to continue to talk with Tracy, as I cannot keep up with everyone on my own.
    • Merlin Edmonston Now,which commandments(our Father's ones,not orthodox jewish ones...too many get the two confused)are too difficult? mind you there are many of the laws that are only for men,women,temple era levitical preists,farmers,etc etc...Following Torah is about obedience..I think we all agree salvation is through the grace of our Messiah.
    • Divine Love grace is the power to obey, obedience is the evidence of salvation
    • Tracy Payne Buford okay, I'm done here! We're back to the same people that were here before!
    • Tracy Payne Buford It was nice talking to you Becky. I appreciated the ADULT conversation.
    • Moni Hz I was not aware this was private? I see others commenting Divine you could not be more wrong. Tell me how obedient was King David? Yet a man after Gods own heart? How obedient was Sampson?
    • Becky Potter Tracy Im asking you to please stay and talk with me here about this. Me and you and the others can just follow along.
    • Joe Austin Chambless Attacking Mike on his Facebook page while he is preaching is just a distraction. I'll be back after he is done speaking.
    • Chris Rant Becky if we agree that salvation is only through the blood of Jesus who sacrificed himself ONCE AND FORE ALL why do you want me and others to go back under the law. isn't that rejecting Jesus'sacrifice by saying it is insufficient?
    • Becky Potter Chris there was the law of sin and death, and the law of God. They are two different things.
    • Divine Love Actually by rejecting the Law of God, you are rejecting Jesus. He is the Living Word, How can any part of Him be done away with? The law of sin and death is what was done away with. Everyone was a slave to sin and death before Jesus. Now we have the grace/power to obey. Jesus obeyed every Word of the Bible and so should we.
    • Becky Potter I am not trying to keep the law (Commandments of God) for my salvation. We have already agreed that is not how one obtains salvation and it never was by keeping the Commandments.
    • Byron Robertson Please don't tell me you are under law when law brings a curse and death. I would rather be under God's grace because of Christ the Messiah and His atonement for sin on that tree! If you are under law, that means you must fulfill all the law for if one link in the chain is broken, you fall. Only Jesus fulfills what we cannot. That is the whole point of His First Coming. Please be ready before His Second. Why deflate faith with works added to His work when you can rest in His full accomplishment. Remember, regarding the Torah, He cried, "It is finished!" (John 19:30).
    • Divine Love saved by grace to obey because we love Him
    • Chris Rant I don't reject the law i have accepted that i can not keep it therefore need a saviour,That would be Jesus.If you want to keep the law well good luck to you,but you need to keep all of it and btw there is no temple.
    • Becky Potter Bryon Im under Gods grace. I not keeping the commandments for salvation, that would be legalistic and that would nulify the work that Christ did on the cross.
    • Divine Love we are the temple
    • Divine Love not for salvation, but as evidence of salvation
    • Jennifer Cochran Our Pastor is speaking right now. Those of us who are a part of the church would do well to support him and go back to this afterward. Also, those of you who are on here asking questions should wait until our Pastor is done speaking after about 30 minutes or so or wait until a decent time another day to look into these things. Coming on here while you know he is unavailable does not speak well on your behalf. In your best interest and ours, please wait for our Pastor. God bless you all!
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